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		<title>By: Jennifer Bouani</title>
		<link>http://gobigalways.com/enterprise-data-portability-needs-a-reputation-standard/#comment-1751</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Bouani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reputation is a subjective thing, especially when you remove the context of the social site it’s housed on.  Reputation by whose standards and in what context?   

Drawing on Martin’s hypothetical scenerio in a previous comment, Paula’s reputation as a writer may be glowing, but she may just suck as a manager.  She may be a great manager of teenage boys (she volunteers at the local community center) but terrible managing a gaggle of ladies in corporate communications (they hate her military approach).   She may be a great historical novelist, but terrible at research papers.  

Kim’s idea for treating it like a FICO score is something worth exploring. Context would be critical.  So how would it work?  Would Paula say “Rate my Management abilities”?  No, in Paula's case that rating wouldn’t really mean anything. Would she be able to say “Rate me on my ability to manage teenage boys”?  She would be more inclined to offer up ratings for things she knows she’s good at and avoid those things she’s bad at.  Or maybe she THINKS she’s good at managing teenage boys, but when the ratings roll in, she finds out she’s wrong.  Would she be able to remove the rating?    

I’m not convinced yet that this would be valuable.  But I’ll keep an open mind to see how the idea develops.  

This is the first time I’ve visited this blog and it’s great – very thought provoking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reputation is a subjective thing, especially when you remove the context of the social site it’s housed on.  Reputation by whose standards and in what context?   </p>
<p>Drawing on Martin’s hypothetical scenerio in a previous comment, Paula’s reputation as a writer may be glowing, but she may just suck as a manager.  She may be a great manager of teenage boys (she volunteers at the local community center) but terrible managing a gaggle of ladies in corporate communications (they hate her military approach).   She may be a great historical novelist, but terrible at research papers.  </p>
<p>Kim’s idea for treating it like a FICO score is something worth exploring. Context would be critical.  So how would it work?  Would Paula say “Rate my Management abilities”?  No, in Paula&#8217;s case that rating wouldn’t really mean anything. Would she be able to say “Rate me on my ability to manage teenage boys”?  She would be more inclined to offer up ratings for things she knows she’s good at and avoid those things she’s bad at.  Or maybe she THINKS she’s good at managing teenage boys, but when the ratings roll in, she finds out she’s wrong.  Would she be able to remove the rating?    </p>
<p>I’m not convinced yet that this would be valuable.  But I’ll keep an open mind to see how the idea develops.  </p>
<p>This is the first time I’ve visited this blog and it’s great – very thought provoking.</p>
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		<title>By: Go Big Always - Anatomy of the Enterprise Octopus</title>
		<link>http://gobigalways.com/enterprise-data-portability-needs-a-reputation-standard/#comment-1592</link>
		<dc:creator>Go Big Always - Anatomy of the Enterprise Octopus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] new operations tools could emerge, they should be part of the head. Perhaps they are things like reputation scoring, the quality of co-created deliverables, or &#8220;repair&#8221; rate. Who knows. These could have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] new operations tools could emerge, they should be part of the head. Perhaps they are things like reputation scoring, the quality of co-created deliverables, or &#8220;repair&#8221; rate. Who knows. These could have [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Kveton &#183; I&#8217;m for the Open Web</title>
		<link>http://gobigalways.com/enterprise-data-portability-needs-a-reputation-standard/#comment-1536</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Kveton &#183; I&#8217;m for the Open Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that even folks from my hometown can be misled by this DP media hoopla. When I read Sam Lawrence say:  In the meantime, we’re interested in working with the Data Portability group to help contribute [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] that even folks from my hometown can be misled by this DP media hoopla. When I read Sam Lawrence say:  In the meantime, we’re interested in working with the Data Portability group to help contribute [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Feraday</title>
		<link>http://gobigalways.com/enterprise-data-portability-needs-a-reputation-standard/#comment-1504</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Feraday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I'm in agreement with Martin on this, at least in part. Context is important -- I am many different people and your interest in me depends on how our interests converge. Semantic reconciliation can play a role here. 

Beyond that I think that relying only on my participation to date is limiting. What if I have great credentials but not much of a social reputation because I'm new to the community? Taking into account only the reptutation I've built in this one technical context is also limiting. Certainly you will want to take these things into account but you not taking into account who I am means you're going to be missing potentially valuable connections. 

To me the ideal would be a service that's more like a FICO score that lets you define the attributes you want to score on and the weights you want to assign to them. It would \take into account factors such as professional designations and education, or volunteer activities, or hobbies (depending on the context) and combine these with my online reputation. And it would allow me to have multiple scores depending on who I am in a given context, rather than conflating these which I think creates confusion and poor results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;m in agreement with Martin on this, at least in part. Context is important &#8212; I am many different people and your interest in me depends on how our interests converge. Semantic reconciliation can play a role here. </p>
<p>Beyond that I think that relying only on my participation to date is limiting. What if I have great credentials but not much of a social reputation because I&#8217;m new to the community? Taking into account only the reptutation I&#8217;ve built in this one technical context is also limiting. Certainly you will want to take these things into account but you not taking into account who I am means you&#8217;re going to be missing potentially valuable connections. </p>
<p>To me the ideal would be a service that&#8217;s more like a FICO score that lets you define the attributes you want to score on and the weights you want to assign to them. It would \take into account factors such as professional designations and education, or volunteer activities, or hobbies (depending on the context) and combine these with my online reputation. And it would allow me to have multiple scores depending on who I am in a given context, rather than conflating these which I think creates confusion and poor results.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dixie Chicks can make people more innovative. &#171; Connected</title>
		<link>http://gobigalways.com/enterprise-data-portability-needs-a-reputation-standard/#comment-1503</link>
		<dc:creator>The Dixie Chicks can make people more innovative. &#171; Connected</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to take this idea another step even further, read Sam&#8217;s take on data [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] to take this idea another step even further, read Sam&#8217;s take on data [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Burbary</title>
		<link>http://gobigalways.com/enterprise-data-portability-needs-a-reputation-standard/#comment-1497</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Burbary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To build on @jowyang's point, I wouldn't limit it to social media active folks. Many people have relevant info about themselves online that a simple google search would reveal. For individuals, reputation management and personal branding will become more of an issue and concern as we move forward on these issues. For companies and recruiters seeking talent, googling a potential candidate is already a de-facto standard practice, though it may not be an official policy of the company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To build on @jowyang&#8217;s point, I wouldn&#8217;t limit it to social media active folks. Many people have relevant info about themselves online that a simple google search would reveal. For individuals, reputation management and personal branding will become more of an issue and concern as we move forward on these issues. For companies and recruiters seeking talent, googling a potential candidate is already a de-facto standard practice, though it may not be an official policy of the company.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Masterson</title>
		<link>http://gobigalways.com/enterprise-data-portability-needs-a-reputation-standard/#comment-1490</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Masterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Jeremiah makes an important point, which I can back up with personal experience.  Being the first hit of a google for your full name has value -- it's worth real-world money.  I can attest to this.  My current paycheck is higher for it -- I sat down in an interview, and was able to casually say that I came up first in a search for my name.  That fact was worth a higher salary.

As Jeremiah also suggests, that won't be true in every profession (yet, but give it time).  But the deeper point lurking there, I think, is this: things that have monetary value tend to get exploited.  This will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Jeremiah makes an important point, which I can back up with personal experience.  Being the first hit of a google for your full name has value &#8212; it&#8217;s worth real-world money.  I can attest to this.  My current paycheck is higher for it &#8212; I sat down in an interview, and was able to casually say that I came up first in a search for my name.  That fact was worth a higher salary.</p>
<p>As Jeremiah also suggests, that won&#8217;t be true in every profession (yet, but give it time).  But the deeper point lurking there, I think, is this: things that have monetary value tend to get exploited.  This will.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Masterson</title>
		<link>http://gobigalways.com/enterprise-data-portability-needs-a-reputation-standard/#comment-1489</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Masterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the various comments that volume based metrics for measuring "reputation" are a poor idea.  But that's not the only idea Sam has floated here -- voluntary, digg like ratings are another.  Personally, I dislike "karma" systems like Slashdot's, as that always seems to devolve to a popularity contest.  However, it's clearly a step in the right direction.  Imagine a rating system where different raters are weighted differently -- and where subjective feedback (think LinkedIns recommendation system) maps to a value in the system as well...  Inadequate?  Well, yes.  It's a model, and all models abstract away (sometimes important) details.  Models are still damn useful, though...

@Martin: I understand what you're saying, in my 20th century gut. But my head wonders if a citizen of the 21st might not find these worries silly.  Managing all that is a lot of work, and we've consistently seen that our species is unwilling to invest a lot of effort in preserving their own privacy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the various comments that volume based metrics for measuring &#8220;reputation&#8221; are a poor idea.  But that&#8217;s not the only idea Sam has floated here &#8212; voluntary, digg like ratings are another.  Personally, I dislike &#8220;karma&#8221; systems like Slashdot&#8217;s, as that always seems to devolve to a popularity contest.  However, it&#8217;s clearly a step in the right direction.  Imagine a rating system where different raters are weighted differently &#8212; and where subjective feedback (think LinkedIns recommendation system) maps to a value in the system as well&#8230;  Inadequate?  Well, yes.  It&#8217;s a model, and all models abstract away (sometimes important) details.  Models are still damn useful, though&#8230;</p>
<p>@Martin: I understand what you&#8217;re saying, in my 20th century gut. But my head wonders if a citizen of the 21st might not find these worries silly.  Managing all that is a lot of work, and we&#8217;ve consistently seen that our species is unwilling to invest a lot of effort in preserving their own privacy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: martin english</title>
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		<dc:creator>martin english</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's a lot of subtleties unde the skin, based on human behaviour, which lead to some interesting questions..

First, lets decide which Paula you are talking about. Inside 'the company', there's Paula who is head of UAT for a given product or service, but there's also Paula the informal - the one on the committe for the kids Christmas Party, the one who has the key to the pool table when it swallows your change and the one who knows just the right way to kick the soft drink machine. Outside work, there's Paula the motorcyclist, Paula the WOW clan leader, Paula the daughter and sister.

Would this Paula, for example, want ALL (or even any) of those previous identities associated with her profile on a dating site ? It would be unwise to associate the dating identity with her work identity (from a physical safety perspective).  She might also be nervous about SOME of her Work, WOW or biker buddies knowing as well (but there may be some she's particularly interested in having know as well...)

Depending on whether you share the details of one identity with ALL or SOME of the contacts of another identity, you either increase the value of the second identity, OR you create a third identity.

Which of your identities has which reputation and how much ?
What, if any, crossover between these reputations do you want made public ?
What, if any, crossover between these reputations are relevant ?

What, if any, crossover between these Identities do you want made public ?
What, if any, crossover between these Identities SHOULD you make public ?
How do you trust / ensure that the owner of each of these identities keep them up to date ?
Who do you trust to manage these identities / reputations exactly as you wish (matching only as you wish, segregating as you wish)  ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a lot of subtleties unde the skin, based on human behaviour, which lead to some interesting questions..</p>
<p>First, lets decide which Paula you are talking about. Inside &#8216;the company&#8217;, there&#8217;s Paula who is head of UAT for a given product or service, but there&#8217;s also Paula the informal - the one on the committe for the kids Christmas Party, the one who has the key to the pool table when it swallows your change and the one who knows just the right way to kick the soft drink machine. Outside work, there&#8217;s Paula the motorcyclist, Paula the WOW clan leader, Paula the daughter and sister.</p>
<p>Would this Paula, for example, want ALL (or even any) of those previous identities associated with her profile on a dating site ? It would be unwise to associate the dating identity with her work identity (from a physical safety perspective).  She might also be nervous about SOME of her Work, WOW or biker buddies knowing as well (but there may be some she&#8217;s particularly interested in having know as well&#8230;)</p>
<p>Depending on whether you share the details of one identity with ALL or SOME of the contacts of another identity, you either increase the value of the second identity, OR you create a third identity.</p>
<p>Which of your identities has which reputation and how much ?<br />
What, if any, crossover between these reputations do you want made public ?<br />
What, if any, crossover between these reputations are relevant ?</p>
<p>What, if any, crossover between these Identities do you want made public ?<br />
What, if any, crossover between these Identities SHOULD you make public ?<br />
How do you trust / ensure that the owner of each of these identities keep them up to date ?<br />
Who do you trust to manage these identities / reputations exactly as you wish (matching only as you wish, segregating as you wish)  ?</p>
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		<title>By: Getting your data in and out of the enterprise: Jive joins Data Portability Project &#187; Silicon Florist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Getting your data in and out of the enterprise: Jive joins Data Portability Project &#187; Silicon Florist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jive CMO Sam Lawrence has grand plans for where this enterprise data portability might have the chance to go: In the meantime, we’re interested in working with the Data Portability group to help contribute [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Jive CMO Sam Lawrence has grand plans for where this enterprise data portability might have the chance to go: In the meantime, we’re interested in working with the Data Portability group to help contribute [&#8230;]</p>
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